1 00:00:01,436 --> 00:00:02,739 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:02,839 --> 00:00:08,350 ♪ 3 00:00:08,417 --> 00:00:11,156 [tense music] [radio chatter] 4 00:00:11,256 --> 00:00:12,491 - Wow. - Looks like our guy. 5 00:00:12,592 --> 00:00:16,166 ♪ 6 00:00:16,266 --> 00:00:19,238 - Tonight, on "The First 48: Critical Minutes..." 7 00:00:19,305 --> 00:00:20,975 - I wanted to be a police officer 8 00:00:21,042 --> 00:00:24,181 since I was a little kid. 9 00:00:24,281 --> 00:00:25,518 - Just trying to piece all of it together. 10 00:00:25,585 --> 00:00:27,188 There's so many different components. 11 00:00:27,288 --> 00:00:28,724 - I'm not gonna give up on this case 12 00:00:28,791 --> 00:00:29,727 until it's over. 13 00:00:29,793 --> 00:00:31,163 - [sobbing] 14 00:00:31,229 --> 00:00:32,899 - Rookie detectives are put to the test. 15 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:34,302 - Yeah, that's how I roll. - Damn. 16 00:00:34,402 --> 00:00:36,172 - Psht. - Let's roll. 17 00:00:36,272 --> 00:00:37,776 - And need to prove themselves. 18 00:00:37,876 --> 00:00:39,012 - Come off the bull[bleep]. 19 00:00:39,112 --> 00:00:41,048 Just tell me exactly what happened. 20 00:00:41,149 --> 00:00:43,419 - As they work their first cases. 21 00:00:43,486 --> 00:00:47,494 - I still got a lot to learn about this job. 22 00:00:47,595 --> 00:00:50,768 [sirens wailing] 23 00:00:50,868 --> 00:00:53,775 [dramatic music] 24 00:00:53,841 --> 00:01:00,688 ♪ 25 00:01:07,869 --> 00:01:10,642 [smooth music] 26 00:01:10,708 --> 00:01:13,981 ♪ 27 00:01:14,048 --> 00:01:15,250 - Remember your first case, bro? 28 00:01:15,317 --> 00:01:16,921 - Yeah, I do remember. 29 00:01:16,987 --> 00:01:18,557 A little bit over five years ago. 30 00:01:18,624 --> 00:01:21,731 It was on Shalimar St., New Orleans East. 31 00:01:21,797 --> 00:01:23,834 Over a bottle of cough syrup. 32 00:01:23,935 --> 00:01:25,470 Yeah. - Jeez. 33 00:01:25,538 --> 00:01:28,110 Cleared it? - Not till recently. 34 00:01:28,210 --> 00:01:30,480 - Oh, really? Wow. 35 00:01:30,548 --> 00:01:33,453 Hope it doesn't take me five years to clear this one. 36 00:01:33,521 --> 00:01:35,490 - New Orleans detective Rayell Johnson 37 00:01:35,558 --> 00:01:37,361 was with the police department for six years 38 00:01:37,461 --> 00:01:39,365 before he joined Homicide. 39 00:01:39,432 --> 00:01:43,273 In March 2014, the young father got called to his first case 40 00:01:43,340 --> 00:01:45,311 as lead detective. 41 00:01:45,377 --> 00:01:48,449 [suspenseful music] 42 00:01:48,550 --> 00:01:49,352 ♪ 43 00:01:49,418 --> 00:01:51,690 - What's up, buddy? What's up? 44 00:01:51,757 --> 00:01:54,262 - All right, so preliminary information we've got right now. 45 00:01:54,362 --> 00:01:56,365 We've got two victims. 46 00:01:56,432 --> 00:01:58,838 One's at the hospital, and they're working on him now. 47 00:01:58,904 --> 00:02:01,711 - Mm-hmm. - One's deceased. 48 00:02:01,777 --> 00:02:05,116 - You have a name on him? - Just Charles Meyers. 49 00:02:05,183 --> 00:02:06,486 [somber music] 50 00:02:06,554 --> 00:02:07,789 male narrator: Thirty-two-year-old 51 00:02:07,889 --> 00:02:11,496 Charles Meyers was born and raised in New Orleans. 52 00:02:11,564 --> 00:02:14,402 He was the father of a six-year-old daughter 53 00:02:14,469 --> 00:02:16,707 and a two-year-old son. 54 00:02:16,773 --> 00:02:20,915 ♪ 55 00:02:20,982 --> 00:02:22,418 - Um, trash cans, where'd they-- 56 00:02:22,519 --> 00:02:24,288 - Trash cans were brought out here by the people 57 00:02:24,388 --> 00:02:25,858 in the neighborhood... 58 00:02:28,063 --> 00:02:32,371 narrator: Charles was shot ten times at close range. 59 00:02:32,471 --> 00:02:36,580 ♪ 60 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,287 - We got this black truck that's pulled over. 61 00:02:40,354 --> 00:02:42,558 Multiple gunshots inside of that. 62 00:02:42,625 --> 00:02:44,929 Got multiple shell casings around the victim. 63 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:47,100 - Looks like .40 caliber casings. 64 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:48,671 - Mm-hmm. 65 00:02:48,771 --> 00:02:50,908 narrator: Half a block from the body... 66 00:02:51,008 --> 00:02:52,612 - That's 9 mm casings down there. 67 00:02:52,679 --> 00:02:54,348 - Back over there where that unit is? 68 00:02:54,415 --> 00:02:57,522 narrator: A second set of casings. 69 00:02:57,589 --> 00:03:00,060 - You got two different calibers. 70 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,563 Probably two different shooters. 71 00:03:01,663 --> 00:03:04,602 - I don't understand why the casings are over there. 72 00:03:04,702 --> 00:03:07,408 - Yeah, that's... - That car parked right there. 73 00:03:07,475 --> 00:03:10,948 - It's a little confusing. 74 00:03:11,048 --> 00:03:12,418 So far it's really scattered 75 00:03:12,485 --> 00:03:13,654 as to what could've possibly happened. 76 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,294 Now, we have two sets of casings a block apart. 77 00:03:17,361 --> 00:03:19,699 I'm going to see what they're looking at. 78 00:03:19,799 --> 00:03:22,906 ♪ 79 00:03:22,973 --> 00:03:25,076 What the hell? 80 00:03:25,176 --> 00:03:27,582 Look like some type of cable box. 81 00:03:27,682 --> 00:03:29,052 - Yeah. - It's just a cable box. 82 00:03:29,152 --> 00:03:30,655 - I know. - [chuckles] 83 00:03:30,722 --> 00:03:31,624 Mm. 84 00:03:31,724 --> 00:03:34,629 - This is related to the whole thing, I think. 85 00:03:36,099 --> 00:03:38,570 Finding the truth is gonna be... 86 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:47,723 ♪ 87 00:03:47,823 --> 00:03:48,924 [sighs] 88 00:03:49,058 --> 00:03:52,264 - This is Rayell's first case, and it's a complicated case, 89 00:03:52,364 --> 00:03:54,569 but, uh, I have all the confidence in the world 90 00:03:54,636 --> 00:03:56,840 that Rayell will solve this case. 91 00:03:56,940 --> 00:03:58,009 - [sighs] 92 00:03:58,109 --> 00:04:00,648 Well, gonna head up to see if we get surviving victim 93 00:04:00,749 --> 00:04:04,221 to give us some information about what happened out here. 94 00:04:04,288 --> 00:04:05,525 Just trying to piece all of this together. 95 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:07,729 There's so many different components. 96 00:04:07,829 --> 00:04:10,233 [crows caw] 97 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:13,240 [somber music] 98 00:04:13,306 --> 00:04:19,251 ♪ 99 00:04:19,351 --> 00:04:20,555 As of right now, 100 00:04:20,655 --> 00:04:21,790 we think that he's just a victim, 101 00:04:21,857 --> 00:04:23,728 that he didn't, you know, do anything wrong, 102 00:04:23,795 --> 00:04:26,499 so, uh, we're just gonna get him in there 103 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:28,804 and see if he's willing to talk. 104 00:04:30,741 --> 00:04:32,845 All right. 105 00:04:35,985 --> 00:04:37,755 Just start from the beginning. 106 00:04:37,855 --> 00:04:39,391 What happened? 107 00:04:49,311 --> 00:04:51,049 - They were jumping into your-- 108 00:04:51,149 --> 00:04:52,818 - OK. 109 00:05:06,513 --> 00:05:09,451 - You don't know who these dudes are? 110 00:05:16,432 --> 00:05:18,937 - All right, and then what happened after that? 111 00:05:27,454 --> 00:05:28,691 narrator: The surviving victim 112 00:05:28,758 --> 00:05:31,563 says he couldn't warn Charles to stay away. 113 00:05:35,437 --> 00:05:37,007 - And what happened? 114 00:05:40,113 --> 00:05:43,954 narrator: He says three men tied them up at gunpoint. 115 00:05:47,027 --> 00:05:48,630 - OK. 116 00:05:52,739 --> 00:05:54,576 narrator: Charles tried to run for his life, 117 00:05:54,643 --> 00:05:57,648 but the heavyset man gunned him down. 118 00:06:03,761 --> 00:06:05,396 narrator: He says the driver shot at him 119 00:06:05,496 --> 00:06:07,467 and jumped out of the car. 120 00:06:12,745 --> 00:06:15,083 ♪ 121 00:06:21,362 --> 00:06:28,075 ♪ 122 00:06:31,348 --> 00:06:33,654 - See that video, bruh. 123 00:06:36,492 --> 00:06:38,898 Here they come. 124 00:06:39,398 --> 00:06:40,802 - OK, that's them right there. 125 00:06:40,902 --> 00:06:43,206 So it looks like they jumped the fence. 126 00:06:43,273 --> 00:06:45,878 - Whoa. Puts on the brakes. - Yeah. 127 00:06:45,945 --> 00:06:47,381 So it kind of looked like they was just waiting on him 128 00:06:47,481 --> 00:06:49,218 to get home. 129 00:06:49,285 --> 00:06:52,024 Pretty much how he described it. 130 00:06:52,090 --> 00:06:55,263 - That's a robbery in progress. - Mm-hmm. 131 00:06:55,329 --> 00:06:56,499 - Jesus, so he's telling the truth. 132 00:06:56,567 --> 00:06:58,436 They abducted him. - Yeah. Yeah. 133 00:07:06,485 --> 00:07:08,022 - He wasn't lying. 134 00:07:08,122 --> 00:07:09,993 - Wow. 135 00:07:10,093 --> 00:07:12,798 - So is that our deceased? - That's the deceased, yeah. 136 00:07:12,865 --> 00:07:15,671 That's them walking him to the backyard, like they said. 137 00:07:18,811 --> 00:07:21,015 narrator: The team searches every angle 138 00:07:21,115 --> 00:07:22,886 for the suspects' faces. 139 00:07:22,952 --> 00:07:24,221 ♪ 140 00:07:24,321 --> 00:07:27,327 - One spot, one spot, one spot, one spot, one spot. 141 00:07:27,427 --> 00:07:28,730 ♪ 142 00:07:28,831 --> 00:07:30,367 - Here comes anoth-- - There you go. 143 00:07:30,434 --> 00:07:32,639 Pause it, pause it right now. 144 00:07:32,705 --> 00:07:35,043 narrator: Detectives see a fourth suspect. 145 00:07:35,143 --> 00:07:37,147 - Another perp. 146 00:07:38,382 --> 00:07:41,222 - We have a video of the perpetrators, 147 00:07:41,289 --> 00:07:45,564 so about to send a bulletin to all the district units. 148 00:07:45,631 --> 00:07:48,870 Hopefully we'd be able to get them identified. 149 00:07:48,937 --> 00:07:51,342 [dramatic music] 150 00:07:51,442 --> 00:07:54,348 ♪ 151 00:07:54,448 --> 00:07:56,921 narrator: The next day... 152 00:07:56,987 --> 00:08:00,427 ♪ 153 00:08:00,494 --> 00:08:01,797 - How you doing? 154 00:08:01,864 --> 00:08:04,134 I came here to show this video. 155 00:08:04,234 --> 00:08:06,640 narrator: Detective Rayell Johnson and the team 156 00:08:06,740 --> 00:08:11,315 show the surviving victim video of the suspects 157 00:08:11,382 --> 00:08:13,286 and get a break. 158 00:08:13,353 --> 00:08:15,958 - That's something. 159 00:08:16,058 --> 00:08:17,127 [engine starts] 160 00:08:17,227 --> 00:08:18,764 [sighs] 161 00:08:18,864 --> 00:08:23,339 After seeing the video, he says that the big guy is the shooter. 162 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:25,076 narrator: He pointed out the heavyset man 163 00:08:25,143 --> 00:08:28,650 in the white T-shirt as the man who killed Charles. 164 00:08:28,750 --> 00:08:30,386 - Disappointed he couldn't ID him. 165 00:08:30,486 --> 00:08:33,459 ♪ 166 00:08:33,527 --> 00:08:36,131 [tense music] 167 00:08:36,231 --> 00:08:38,703 ♪ 168 00:08:40,942 --> 00:08:42,878 [telephone rings] 169 00:08:42,978 --> 00:08:44,849 ♪ 170 00:08:44,916 --> 00:08:45,885 Wow. 171 00:08:45,952 --> 00:08:48,691 All right, appreciate you. Thank you. 172 00:08:48,791 --> 00:08:50,662 A man named Jonathan Holmes had been bragging 173 00:08:50,728 --> 00:08:53,534 about being responsible for the murder. 174 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,671 ♪ 175 00:08:55,771 --> 00:08:58,109 I believe him to be the guy who actually shot 176 00:08:58,175 --> 00:08:59,912 and murdered Charles Meyers. 177 00:08:59,979 --> 00:09:02,652 I mean, to do something like this, broad daylight, 178 00:09:02,718 --> 00:09:04,021 he's a real dangerous guy. 179 00:09:04,087 --> 00:09:07,528 That's somebody we don't need on the streets. 180 00:09:07,595 --> 00:09:09,231 narrator: An hour later, 181 00:09:09,331 --> 00:09:13,406 the surviving victim arrives at headquarters. 182 00:09:13,507 --> 00:09:15,944 - Let's see if he picks this guy out, so... 183 00:09:16,011 --> 00:09:17,782 we'll see. 184 00:09:17,848 --> 00:09:19,986 [suspenseful music] 185 00:09:20,086 --> 00:09:21,288 - Review each photograph carefully. 186 00:09:21,556 --> 00:09:24,295 If you recognize anyone, tell me why you recognize them. 187 00:09:24,361 --> 00:09:29,739 ♪ 188 00:09:30,975 --> 00:09:32,878 - That's Big Boy? 189 00:09:32,945 --> 00:09:35,884 - OK, and how do you know Big Boy? 190 00:09:38,657 --> 00:09:40,359 - He's the one that shot your cousin? 191 00:09:41,797 --> 00:09:44,536 - [exhales] All right. 192 00:09:44,602 --> 00:09:46,873 Nice, we picked him out. 193 00:09:46,973 --> 00:09:50,246 Real brave of him to come in and, you know, ID this guy. 194 00:09:50,313 --> 00:09:51,850 Him and his cousin, they were real close. 195 00:09:51,950 --> 00:09:54,589 They pretty much grew up together. 196 00:09:54,689 --> 00:09:57,127 They've been tight their whole life, so... 197 00:09:57,193 --> 00:09:59,131 Get this warrant signed for his arrest, 198 00:09:59,198 --> 00:10:00,801 send it out and... 199 00:10:00,868 --> 00:10:04,274 see if I can get this guy picked up. 200 00:10:04,374 --> 00:10:07,682 narrator: Johnson sends out the Violent Offender Warrant Squad 201 00:10:07,748 --> 00:10:11,689 to track down the alleged killer, Jonathan Holmes. 202 00:10:11,756 --> 00:10:14,294 [sirens wailing] 203 00:10:18,436 --> 00:10:19,138 ♪ 204 00:10:19,471 --> 00:10:20,340 narrator: The alleged killer, 205 00:10:20,373 --> 00:10:21,475 Jonathan Holmes, 206 00:10:21,475 --> 00:10:22,912 is taken into custody. 207 00:10:22,912 --> 00:10:24,916 - Do you wish to waive your rights 208 00:10:25,016 --> 00:10:30,226 and speak with the police or do you wish to remain silent? 209 00:10:35,169 --> 00:10:38,510 narrator: Holmes is taken to jail. 210 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:41,081 [suspenseful music] 211 00:10:41,181 --> 00:10:43,118 An hour later... 212 00:10:44,756 --> 00:10:46,125 - Yeah. - Yeah. 213 00:10:46,192 --> 00:10:48,763 - But then he told SOD when he got there 214 00:10:48,830 --> 00:10:50,267 he wants to talk. 215 00:10:50,367 --> 00:10:51,503 - Pfft. 216 00:10:51,603 --> 00:10:53,674 - Yeah, so... 217 00:10:53,774 --> 00:10:55,042 We'll go over there and try to talk to him, 218 00:10:55,142 --> 00:10:56,980 then we'll bring good old Detective Tim Bender, 219 00:10:57,046 --> 00:10:59,418 we'll bring the wise, old, savvy veteran. 220 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:01,055 Sometimes got old wise-guy-ass tricks 221 00:11:01,155 --> 00:11:03,459 up his sleeve, you never know, so... 222 00:11:03,527 --> 00:11:05,664 - We'll see. If this cat wants to talk, 223 00:11:05,731 --> 00:11:07,568 he's gonna talk. 224 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:10,373 ♪ 225 00:11:18,055 --> 00:11:19,692 - OK. 226 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:44,207 [dramatic musical flourish] 227 00:12:02,578 --> 00:12:04,616 ♪ 228 00:12:04,716 --> 00:12:06,085 - [groans] 229 00:12:06,152 --> 00:12:08,156 The fact is he put himself there, 230 00:12:08,256 --> 00:12:09,592 we have proof that he was there, 231 00:12:09,659 --> 00:12:13,734 and we have somebody who ID'd him as the shooter, so... 232 00:12:13,801 --> 00:12:15,738 that's a wrap. 233 00:12:15,838 --> 00:12:18,409 First case. Pretty excited. 234 00:12:18,476 --> 00:12:19,478 - That's good. Congratulations. 235 00:12:19,579 --> 00:12:20,547 - Thank you. - First case? 236 00:12:20,614 --> 00:12:21,750 - Let's knock it out of the park. 237 00:12:21,850 --> 00:12:22,818 Boom-psht. 238 00:12:22,885 --> 00:12:24,722 - Wonderful job. I'm so proud of you. 239 00:12:24,822 --> 00:12:26,893 Your first case too, huh? - Yeah, that's how I roll. 240 00:12:26,993 --> 00:12:28,730 - Damn. - That's how I roll. 241 00:12:28,830 --> 00:12:31,636 Psht. [laughs] 242 00:12:31,736 --> 00:12:34,241 - You can train these guys, but you know... 243 00:12:34,308 --> 00:12:36,613 - But there's plenty more to do, so, you know... 244 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:38,115 - Still, outstanding job. 245 00:12:38,182 --> 00:12:40,854 - Appreciate that, bro. Appreciate that. 246 00:12:41,923 --> 00:12:45,096 [somber music] 247 00:12:45,162 --> 00:12:51,509 ♪ 248 00:12:51,609 --> 00:12:55,517 You know, it's a tragic case. 249 00:12:56,586 --> 00:12:58,923 Charles lost his life 250 00:12:59,024 --> 00:13:02,130 just trying to fight for his own life. 251 00:13:02,196 --> 00:13:04,100 With me, it's just gonna be one of those cases 252 00:13:04,167 --> 00:13:05,269 that's gonna stick with me forever, 253 00:13:05,336 --> 00:13:06,672 not just because it's my first one. 254 00:13:06,773 --> 00:13:09,646 Just because I can kind of relate to it, being that I have 255 00:13:09,746 --> 00:13:12,250 a young daughter, and him having young kids, 256 00:13:12,317 --> 00:13:14,087 but I did my part 257 00:13:14,187 --> 00:13:16,526 in trying to get justice for him. 258 00:13:16,626 --> 00:13:19,164 It's just sad. 259 00:13:19,264 --> 00:13:26,244 ♪ 260 00:13:33,761 --> 00:13:36,699 [uneasy music] 261 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:38,770 ♪ 262 00:13:38,837 --> 00:13:40,541 - I'm not gonna give up on this case 263 00:13:40,641 --> 00:13:42,945 until it's over. 264 00:13:43,012 --> 00:13:44,783 - Phoenix detective, Jason Schechterle, 265 00:13:44,849 --> 00:13:46,251 had overcome a lot of adversity 266 00:13:46,352 --> 00:13:48,222 before joining the homicide unit. 267 00:13:48,322 --> 00:13:51,262 His first case's lead had just one clue, 268 00:13:51,362 --> 00:13:54,168 but he was determined to get to the bottom of it. 269 00:13:54,234 --> 00:13:55,136 ♪ 270 00:13:55,236 --> 00:13:57,341 - I've been in Phoenix Police Homicide Unit 271 00:13:57,407 --> 00:13:59,177 for about 18 months now, 272 00:13:59,244 --> 00:14:00,882 and in the world of Homicide, 273 00:14:00,948 --> 00:14:02,350 that's about 20 minutes. 274 00:14:02,417 --> 00:14:06,125 narrator: Jason Schechterle is Homicide's newest rookie. 275 00:14:06,225 --> 00:14:10,099 - 'Cause I still got a lot to learn about this job. 276 00:14:10,199 --> 00:14:12,270 narrator: Four years ago, he was just starting out 277 00:14:12,370 --> 00:14:14,575 as a patrol officer, when he barely survived 278 00:14:14,675 --> 00:14:16,846 a car accident. 279 00:14:16,913 --> 00:14:18,984 - My patrol car caught on fire, 280 00:14:19,084 --> 00:14:22,758 and I suffered severe burns to about 43% of my body. 281 00:14:22,858 --> 00:14:25,096 I was off work for about 18 months. 282 00:14:25,163 --> 00:14:27,902 I went through quite the recovery process. 283 00:14:28,002 --> 00:14:30,240 So far, I've had 47 surgeries 284 00:14:30,306 --> 00:14:34,014 to rebuild and try to make my appearance, you know, 285 00:14:34,114 --> 00:14:35,349 a little bit better. 286 00:14:35,517 --> 00:14:38,256 I didn't really know what I was gonna do with my career 287 00:14:38,356 --> 00:14:41,563 or didn't really feel like I had a place in the world anymore. 288 00:14:41,663 --> 00:14:45,169 The Homicide Unit took me in and gave me a home, 289 00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:47,875 and things have been great ever since. 290 00:14:47,942 --> 00:14:50,748 This will actually be my first case 291 00:14:50,848 --> 00:14:53,452 as a lead investigator. 292 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,492 [electronic music] 293 00:14:56,559 --> 00:15:00,433 ♪ 294 00:15:00,499 --> 00:15:02,170 narrator: The crime scene is in the parking lot 295 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:04,307 of an auto body shop. 296 00:15:08,315 --> 00:15:11,990 The response team finds the victim's shirt... 297 00:15:12,056 --> 00:15:13,025 and truck. 298 00:15:13,125 --> 00:15:16,264 [dramatic music] 299 00:15:16,364 --> 00:15:23,345 ♪ 300 00:15:24,347 --> 00:15:27,087 - The victim is Eduardo Beltran. 301 00:15:27,187 --> 00:15:31,027 Hispanic male, uh, about 28 years old. 302 00:15:31,094 --> 00:15:34,234 The victim had gone into the office with the manager, 303 00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:36,072 telling him that he needed an estimate 304 00:15:36,172 --> 00:15:37,975 on the damage for his truck, 305 00:15:38,042 --> 00:15:39,645 that he was in an accident the night before. 306 00:15:39,712 --> 00:15:42,150 narrator: The victim told the auto body shop manager 307 00:15:42,217 --> 00:15:45,356 that he was meeting the man who crashed into his car. 308 00:15:45,456 --> 00:15:48,564 Together, they were gonna get an estimate for damages. 309 00:15:48,630 --> 00:15:51,168 - Manager went back inside and heard the shot. 310 00:15:51,235 --> 00:15:54,074 They all came out and found him lying on the pavement 311 00:15:54,141 --> 00:15:56,478 out here in this parking lot, and that's all we have. 312 00:16:01,522 --> 00:16:04,360 narrator: Detectives find their first clue. 313 00:16:04,427 --> 00:16:05,864 - Ah, excellent. - Uh, what that is 314 00:16:05,964 --> 00:16:07,067 is a money receipt in the victim's name. 315 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,937 What we're concerned with is the receipt, 316 00:16:09,037 --> 00:16:10,841 has some writing on the back we think is the person 317 00:16:10,941 --> 00:16:12,076 he had the accident with last night, 318 00:16:12,143 --> 00:16:13,379 his phone number. 319 00:16:13,479 --> 00:16:15,717 - It's leading us in one direction at this point. 320 00:16:15,818 --> 00:16:17,287 Hopefully it's in the right direction. 321 00:16:17,354 --> 00:16:18,991 This is our best lead right now. 322 00:16:19,091 --> 00:16:22,196 [energetic music] 323 00:16:22,296 --> 00:16:24,000 ♪ 324 00:16:24,101 --> 00:16:26,171 - Eduardo Beltran, 325 00:16:26,238 --> 00:16:28,409 the last phone number he dialed and received 326 00:16:28,510 --> 00:16:30,379 in his phone is the same number, 327 00:16:30,479 --> 00:16:33,687 and it's also written on a piece of paper in his truck. 328 00:16:33,787 --> 00:16:36,526 He was in a car accident less than 24 hours ago, 329 00:16:36,626 --> 00:16:38,864 so it really looks like his murder is related 330 00:16:38,930 --> 00:16:40,634 to that accident and this phone number. 331 00:16:40,701 --> 00:16:43,238 narrator: Schechterle tries to track down a name or address 332 00:16:43,338 --> 00:16:45,109 for the suspect's cell phone number. 333 00:16:45,176 --> 00:16:47,280 - It is a long shot that this phone is connected, 334 00:16:47,381 --> 00:16:49,450 but, first of all, it's my only lead. 335 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,259 [dramatic musical flourish] 336 00:16:53,359 --> 00:16:58,168 The registered subscriber to that cell phone number? 337 00:16:58,269 --> 00:17:01,642 No such address, no such name. Nothing. 338 00:17:03,246 --> 00:17:05,416 - Eduardo Beltran is dead. 339 00:17:05,517 --> 00:17:07,186 - The only thing-- - That's as far as we've gotten 340 00:17:07,287 --> 00:17:09,424 in five hours. - That's all we have. 341 00:17:09,491 --> 00:17:11,128 - Nothing. 342 00:17:11,194 --> 00:17:14,368 [suspenseful music] 343 00:17:14,434 --> 00:17:17,407 ♪ 344 00:17:17,474 --> 00:17:19,845 - So, I think it's a great lead. 345 00:17:19,945 --> 00:17:23,085 I'll get a subpoena and see if I can get it figured out. 346 00:17:29,732 --> 00:17:30,768 - OK. 347 00:17:30,868 --> 00:17:32,538 [speaking in Spanish] 348 00:17:32,638 --> 00:17:39,618 ♪ 349 00:17:46,431 --> 00:17:48,837 - Hi, Maria. I'm Jason Schechterle. 350 00:17:48,904 --> 00:17:49,939 I work for the Phoenix Police Department. 351 00:17:50,039 --> 00:17:52,376 How are you? - Good. Fine. 352 00:17:56,151 --> 00:17:57,555 -Phoenix Detective Jason Schecterle worked 353 00:17:57,588 --> 00:17:59,491 the one clue he had in his first case, 354 00:17:59,491 --> 00:18:00,492 a phone number, 355 00:18:00,594 --> 00:18:01,963 and the records eventually led him 356 00:18:02,063 --> 00:18:05,269 to the girlfriend of a man named Arturo. 357 00:18:05,336 --> 00:18:08,142 - Oswaldo told us that the phone belonged to a man 358 00:18:08,208 --> 00:18:11,248 named Arturo, and that the reason Arturo calls 359 00:18:11,348 --> 00:18:13,853 all the time is because he's in love with you, basically, 360 00:18:13,953 --> 00:18:14,956 and he calls Oswaldo, 361 00:18:15,056 --> 00:18:17,160 so Oswaldo can give you messages, 362 00:18:17,227 --> 00:18:19,599 and that he wants you back and that he loves you. 363 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:21,970 - It's not the real name for that guy. 364 00:18:22,036 --> 00:18:23,372 - OK, well, that's what I'm looking for. 365 00:18:23,472 --> 00:18:25,811 - The guy that's supposed to be named Arturo, 366 00:18:25,911 --> 00:18:26,979 it's not his real name. 367 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,248 - Well, the man I'm asking about, Arturo, 368 00:18:28,348 --> 00:18:29,686 what do you know him as? 369 00:18:29,786 --> 00:18:31,488 - Rodolfo. - Rodolfo? 370 00:18:31,589 --> 00:18:34,094 - Mm-hmm. - He shooting my new boyfriend. 371 00:18:34,161 --> 00:18:35,764 - He shot your boyfriend? - Yeah. 372 00:18:35,831 --> 00:18:37,500 - Is he still alive? - Yeah. 373 00:18:37,568 --> 00:18:40,641 male narrator: Maria says that Rodolfo broke into her house, 374 00:18:40,707 --> 00:18:42,244 shot her boyfriend, 375 00:18:42,344 --> 00:18:43,747 and then disappeared. 376 00:18:43,847 --> 00:18:45,116 - You saw him do it? - Yeah. 377 00:18:45,182 --> 00:18:46,519 - So did you talk to police that night? 378 00:18:46,586 --> 00:18:48,657 - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. - Did they ever arrest him 379 00:18:48,757 --> 00:18:51,361 or talk to him? - No, they never arrested. 380 00:18:51,428 --> 00:18:53,600 - They never found him? - No, they never-- 381 00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:56,137 - I think we have positively ID'd the guy 382 00:18:56,237 --> 00:18:59,177 with the phone number that I've been looking for. 383 00:18:59,244 --> 00:19:00,814 Plus, we might have-- 384 00:19:00,914 --> 00:19:02,283 - He's going around shooting people [laughs]. 385 00:19:02,383 --> 00:19:04,287 - Plus, we know--yeah, we know that he's capable 386 00:19:04,387 --> 00:19:06,291 of shooting somebody. Yeah, I never expected 387 00:19:06,391 --> 00:19:07,894 to find out, when I identified this guy 388 00:19:07,995 --> 00:19:09,298 that he's wanted for shooting somebody. 389 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:10,901 That's just-- That's huge. 390 00:19:11,001 --> 00:19:16,613 ♪ 391 00:19:16,679 --> 00:19:18,917 I am going to try and find a picture of him 392 00:19:19,017 --> 00:19:20,520 in our Crime Catcher system. 393 00:19:22,557 --> 00:19:23,392 And there he is. 394 00:19:23,459 --> 00:19:24,795 narrator: Schechterle gets a look 395 00:19:24,895 --> 00:19:26,198 at his suspect, 396 00:19:26,298 --> 00:19:28,636 Rodolfo Gutierrez. 397 00:19:28,736 --> 00:19:30,774 [suspenseful music] 398 00:19:30,874 --> 00:19:32,043 - Recognize this guy? 399 00:19:32,143 --> 00:19:33,780 - It's him. - That's who? 400 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,849 - Rodo. - That's-- 401 00:19:34,949 --> 00:19:37,654 - Rodolfo Gutierrez. - That's Rodolfo Gutierrez? 402 00:19:37,754 --> 00:19:42,964 ♪ 403 00:19:45,837 --> 00:19:48,375 I used to work patrol for this beat, right here. 404 00:19:48,442 --> 00:19:49,913 OK, that building right there 405 00:19:50,013 --> 00:19:51,281 is where she says it was. 406 00:19:51,348 --> 00:19:54,087 449 would be on the bottom floor. 407 00:19:54,187 --> 00:19:55,524 It's gonna be the door 408 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:57,326 just on the south side of that stairwell. 409 00:19:57,393 --> 00:19:58,763 I will go back, 410 00:19:58,863 --> 00:20:02,538 get his photo turned over to one of our SWAT team squads 411 00:20:02,605 --> 00:20:04,609 and, uh, see what they can do. 412 00:20:04,709 --> 00:20:07,581 This apartment is very close to the intersection 413 00:20:07,648 --> 00:20:10,252 where I had my accident several years ago. 414 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:12,290 See where that white truck is? 415 00:20:12,356 --> 00:20:13,660 I was there. 416 00:20:13,726 --> 00:20:15,964 My car was hit, and I ended up right here 417 00:20:16,064 --> 00:20:17,500 in front of this green pole. 418 00:20:17,601 --> 00:20:20,373 My car travelled that far, burst into flames, 419 00:20:20,473 --> 00:20:22,376 but thankfully, there was a fire truck 420 00:20:22,476 --> 00:20:25,884 just sitting right there, as fate would have it. 421 00:20:25,951 --> 00:20:27,353 They were able to help me out. 422 00:20:27,453 --> 00:20:30,326 I try in my mind to equate that to the challenges 423 00:20:30,393 --> 00:20:32,463 of this investigation here. 424 00:20:32,531 --> 00:20:34,301 Just as I didn't give up on myself, 425 00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:36,238 my family didn't give up on me or anything. 426 00:20:36,338 --> 00:20:37,808 I'm not gonna give up on this case 427 00:20:37,908 --> 00:20:39,778 until it's over. 428 00:20:39,878 --> 00:20:42,751 narrator: That evening, the SWAT team serves a warrant 429 00:20:42,818 --> 00:20:45,056 at Rodolfo's apartment. 430 00:20:45,156 --> 00:20:48,663 Rodolfo is arrested for shooting Maria's boyfriend. 431 00:20:48,763 --> 00:20:50,767 - We'll bring him upstairs, see what kind of an interview 432 00:20:50,834 --> 00:20:51,936 we can get out of him. 433 00:20:52,036 --> 00:20:55,376 - Our goal is going to be to gradually go from the interview 434 00:20:55,476 --> 00:20:57,380 of the aggravated assault into the homicide. 435 00:20:57,446 --> 00:20:59,417 It's a solid connection that Jason has uncovered. 436 00:20:59,518 --> 00:21:01,823 That's what it's all about, man. - Oh, this has been-- 437 00:21:01,923 --> 00:21:03,325 - This is all up. - This has been so much fun, 438 00:21:03,392 --> 00:21:04,293 I can't tell you. - Right now, 439 00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:05,797 you just have to slow down. 440 00:21:05,897 --> 00:21:09,103 Younger detectives, they get excited about these things, 441 00:21:09,170 --> 00:21:10,874 and that's OK, but we-- right now, 442 00:21:10,974 --> 00:21:13,312 we wanna slow everything down. 443 00:21:13,378 --> 00:21:14,848 [suspenseful music] 444 00:21:14,915 --> 00:21:17,153 narrator: Spanish-speaking detective, John Shalhoub, 445 00:21:17,253 --> 00:21:20,325 will conduct the interview. 446 00:21:23,633 --> 00:21:26,405 narrator: Rodolfo admits that he broke into Maria's house 447 00:21:26,506 --> 00:21:28,375 and shot her boyfriend. 448 00:21:33,385 --> 00:21:34,622 - I think you're getting somewhere. 449 00:21:34,689 --> 00:21:36,324 They're talking about the shooting. 450 00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:39,765 He was involved in the agg assault. 451 00:21:39,865 --> 00:21:41,001 Hey, he's crying. 452 00:21:41,101 --> 00:21:43,305 He's admitting to his involvement in the agg assault. 453 00:21:43,405 --> 00:21:45,275 narrator: Shalhoub then turns the interview 454 00:21:45,342 --> 00:21:46,579 to the homicide. 455 00:21:59,437 --> 00:22:01,709 narrator: Rodolfo says he and his friend, Moreno, 456 00:22:01,809 --> 00:22:04,214 are part of a gang that robs illegal immigrant traffickers. 457 00:22:04,314 --> 00:22:05,382 [dramatic musical flourish] 458 00:22:05,449 --> 00:22:07,152 They were setting up a robbery nearby 459 00:22:07,253 --> 00:22:10,560 when the victim kept calling about repairing his truck. 460 00:22:14,601 --> 00:22:17,674 Rodolfo went with Moreno to the auto body shop. 461 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:24,621 - Jason. - Yeah. 462 00:22:24,721 --> 00:22:26,559 - They're talking about being at the body shop. 463 00:22:26,625 --> 00:22:28,796 - He admits being there? 464 00:22:31,134 --> 00:22:32,202 - He admits to being there. 465 00:22:32,269 --> 00:22:33,739 - That's good. It's going really good. 466 00:22:52,210 --> 00:22:54,881 ♪ 467 00:23:04,367 --> 00:23:05,670 - A little bit more. 468 00:23:24,441 --> 00:23:27,681 narrator: Rodolfo says that the victim's calls annoyed Moreno. 469 00:23:35,597 --> 00:23:36,966 - You got it, brother. - Yeah, man. 470 00:23:37,066 --> 00:23:39,303 - What did he have to say? - That was awesome. 471 00:23:39,403 --> 00:23:41,108 - He did it. - He said he shot him? 472 00:23:41,174 --> 00:23:42,878 - He shot him. 473 00:23:42,978 --> 00:23:45,917 [somber music] 474 00:23:46,017 --> 00:23:52,998 ♪ 475 00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:11,635 - You know, a good person, a family man, 476 00:24:11,702 --> 00:24:13,573 a guy who works, loses his life 477 00:24:13,673 --> 00:24:18,883 because he called somebody's cell phone 478 00:24:18,984 --> 00:24:21,287 at the wrong time, on the wrong day. 479 00:24:21,387 --> 00:24:25,362 It's crazy that life is that meaningless to so many people. 480 00:24:25,462 --> 00:24:28,836 ♪ 481 00:24:31,341 --> 00:24:33,078 - Working on homicide is not only about the investigation. 482 00:24:33,178 --> 00:24:34,548 Detectives must work closely 483 00:24:34,615 --> 00:24:36,752 with the victim's family as well. 484 00:24:36,853 --> 00:24:38,823 Atlanta detective Scott Berhalter 485 00:24:38,890 --> 00:24:40,761 needed to crack a suspect's alibi 486 00:24:40,861 --> 00:24:43,465 in order to bring closure to the victim's family. 487 00:24:43,532 --> 00:24:48,309 ♪ 488 00:24:48,375 --> 00:24:51,949 [suspenseful music] 489 00:24:52,016 --> 00:24:52,718 - Victim was shot 490 00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:54,420 multiple times with, uh, 491 00:24:54,487 --> 00:24:57,327 what they call on the streets is a chopper, 492 00:24:57,393 --> 00:24:59,565 an AK-47-style weapon. 493 00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:02,270 The, uh, shooter fled on foot, 494 00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:03,907 so that's all we know right now. 495 00:25:04,007 --> 00:25:05,643 male narrator: Rookie homicide detective, 496 00:25:05,743 --> 00:25:08,816 Scott Berhalter, will lead the investigation. 497 00:25:10,352 --> 00:25:12,724 - I wanted to be a police officer, uh, 498 00:25:12,791 --> 00:25:14,662 since I was a little kid. 499 00:25:14,762 --> 00:25:16,532 After a stint in the gang unit, 500 00:25:16,632 --> 00:25:18,536 I got to go to the homicide unit. 501 00:25:18,636 --> 00:25:20,807 They're the best. It is an honor and a privilege 502 00:25:20,907 --> 00:25:22,677 to, uh--to work with these guys 503 00:25:22,777 --> 00:25:25,984 and to learn from their experience. 504 00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:33,064 ♪ 505 00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:38,609 [indistinct chatter] 506 00:25:46,024 --> 00:25:49,532 He didn't make it past this threshold most likely. 507 00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,571 Do we have a name? 508 00:25:52,671 --> 00:25:54,742 - Deontavious Wright. 509 00:25:54,808 --> 00:25:57,547 narrator: 29-year-old Deontavious Wright, 510 00:25:57,647 --> 00:25:58,983 known as Deon, 511 00:25:59,083 --> 00:26:02,724 grew up in Atlanta with his two siblings. 512 00:26:02,824 --> 00:26:06,566 He leaves behind a young daughter and an infant son. 513 00:26:06,632 --> 00:26:12,476 ♪ 514 00:26:12,544 --> 00:26:14,346 After hearing about the shooting, 515 00:26:14,413 --> 00:26:18,021 Deon's family and friends gather at the scene. 516 00:26:18,121 --> 00:26:20,058 [solemn music] 517 00:26:20,158 --> 00:26:23,031 - [sobbing] 518 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:25,335 - We do have a couple of witnesses. 519 00:26:25,402 --> 00:26:28,843 The brother of the victim. Another one is the, uh-- 520 00:26:28,943 --> 00:26:30,714 a friend of the victim. 521 00:26:30,814 --> 00:26:31,916 They were inside of the apartment 522 00:26:31,983 --> 00:26:34,855 when the incident happened. 523 00:26:34,921 --> 00:26:37,293 narrator: The team will take the witnesses to headquarters 524 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,363 to be interviewed. 525 00:26:39,463 --> 00:26:42,236 ♪ 526 00:26:44,307 --> 00:26:47,346 Detective Tracy Casey interviews Deon's friend, 527 00:26:47,413 --> 00:26:50,018 who was in the apartment when he was murdered. 528 00:26:50,118 --> 00:26:53,057 - Just tell me the story, how it all went down. 529 00:27:38,181 --> 00:27:42,222 narrator: She says the gunmen forced Deon into her bedroom. 530 00:27:45,563 --> 00:27:47,266 - Who was he? 531 00:27:52,777 --> 00:27:55,248 - Did you see a second person? 532 00:28:03,198 --> 00:28:06,838 narrator: She says she did not recognize the second intruder. 533 00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:17,594 [disturbing music] 534 00:28:17,694 --> 00:28:20,498 - Did you see anybody with a gun shooting? 535 00:28:31,421 --> 00:28:33,191 ♪ 536 00:28:33,257 --> 00:28:36,732 - Tell me everything from when they first came up. 537 00:28:36,832 --> 00:28:39,604 narrator: Down the hall, Detective Summer Benton 538 00:28:39,704 --> 00:28:43,245 speaks to the victim's brother. 539 00:28:43,345 --> 00:28:46,719 He says the three intruders stole money and cell phones, 540 00:28:46,786 --> 00:28:49,457 then one of the men grabbed the AK-47 541 00:28:49,558 --> 00:28:51,327 and pointed it at Deon. 542 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:05,923 - OK, the one male that said, "Shoot," who was that male? 543 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,361 - OK. 544 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,865 ♪ 545 00:29:42,931 --> 00:29:45,670 [suspenseful music] 546 00:29:45,770 --> 00:29:52,950 ♪ 547 00:29:55,055 --> 00:29:56,893 - I can't arrest Little Larry at this time 548 00:29:56,959 --> 00:29:58,361 without more evidence. 549 00:29:58,462 --> 00:30:02,336 Witnesses are pretty adamant that Little Larry's involved, 550 00:30:02,436 --> 00:30:06,812 but they are also saying that Larry was wearing a ski mask. 551 00:30:06,912 --> 00:30:09,083 You know, he did give us Tony Rucker, 552 00:30:09,183 --> 00:30:12,289 and I need the witnesses to be able to tell me 553 00:30:12,356 --> 00:30:15,496 that this person is the person that they saw. 554 00:30:15,563 --> 00:30:17,266 [dialing] 555 00:30:17,366 --> 00:30:19,838 [line trilling] 556 00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:23,613 - This is Detective Berhalter at Atlanta Police Department. 557 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:26,484 narrator: Berhalter asks Deon's friend to come back 558 00:30:26,585 --> 00:30:29,290 and look at a lineup for the suspected shooter, 559 00:30:29,390 --> 00:30:30,760 Little Tony. 560 00:30:30,827 --> 00:30:33,030 - It will be a huge help, definitely. 561 00:30:37,272 --> 00:30:39,310 narrator: She's heard that they've questioned Larry 562 00:30:39,410 --> 00:30:40,946 and released him. 563 00:30:48,663 --> 00:30:52,369 - Before I can take warrants out and place anybody under arrest, 564 00:30:52,469 --> 00:30:54,708 there are certain things that I have to do 565 00:30:54,808 --> 00:30:55,977 so that we can-- 566 00:30:56,044 --> 00:30:57,847 you know, the goal isn't to just get an arrest. 567 00:30:57,947 --> 00:30:59,016 The goal is for us to get 568 00:30:59,117 --> 00:31:02,155 a conviction and get you guys justice. 569 00:31:12,844 --> 00:31:14,347 - Look, ma'am, the goal for tonight, 570 00:31:14,414 --> 00:31:16,986 the reason why I wanted to speak with you... 571 00:31:17,086 --> 00:31:19,022 - ...is to show you a photographic lineup. 572 00:31:24,433 --> 00:31:26,572 - What can I--what can I do for you to give you 573 00:31:26,638 --> 00:31:28,141 a better feeling about all this? 574 00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:47,046 -Rookie Atlanta detective, Scott Berhalter, 575 00:31:47,046 --> 00:31:48,448 was in a tough spot, 576 00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:50,620 but Berhalter had to follow proper procedures 577 00:31:50,687 --> 00:31:53,090 before he could make an arrest. 578 00:31:58,168 --> 00:32:00,205 [suspenseful music] 579 00:32:00,305 --> 00:32:02,142 - We're not trying to say that what you said 580 00:32:02,209 --> 00:32:04,046 isn't important or isn't true. 581 00:32:04,112 --> 00:32:07,452 I believe all of you, OK? I do. 582 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,494 But in order for me to put someone under arrest, OK? 583 00:32:11,595 --> 00:32:14,701 I have certain things that I have to go through, 584 00:32:14,802 --> 00:32:16,470 and I am doing everything that I can. 585 00:32:23,786 --> 00:32:26,992 - OK. - OK. 586 00:32:27,058 --> 00:32:30,031 - All right. 587 00:32:30,934 --> 00:32:32,804 - Your goal for her is you need to get her 588 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:33,973 to look at the lineup, right? 589 00:32:34,073 --> 00:32:37,479 - Mm-hmm. - We need to get to her ASAP. 590 00:32:39,551 --> 00:32:41,254 narrator: Detectives Scott Berhalter 591 00:32:41,354 --> 00:32:43,592 and Mike Young hope they can get the witness 592 00:32:43,692 --> 00:32:45,328 on their side. 593 00:32:45,428 --> 00:32:51,708 ♪ 594 00:33:24,574 --> 00:33:28,515 ♪ 595 00:33:35,863 --> 00:33:37,733 ♪ 596 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,236 - It went well. 597 00:33:39,336 --> 00:33:45,649 ♪ 598 00:33:46,618 --> 00:33:48,187 Have a seat, please. 599 00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:51,260 narrator: The next day, the victim's brother comes in 600 00:33:51,327 --> 00:33:53,632 to ID the shooter. 601 00:33:56,270 --> 00:33:59,577 - We have a photographic lineup to show you, m'kay? 602 00:33:59,677 --> 00:34:02,784 One of these three suspects may or may not be 603 00:34:02,884 --> 00:34:05,689 in this photographic lineup, right? 604 00:34:09,363 --> 00:34:11,434 ♪ 605 00:34:11,501 --> 00:34:13,539 And who is that? 606 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,308 - And what did he do? 607 00:34:17,179 --> 00:34:19,551 [disturbing music] 608 00:34:19,651 --> 00:34:22,590 ♪ 609 00:34:22,657 --> 00:34:25,095 - I think that getting an arrest warrant for Little Tony 610 00:34:25,195 --> 00:34:28,067 and getting him off the street will really help 611 00:34:28,134 --> 00:34:30,071 the other witnesses in the family. 612 00:34:30,171 --> 00:34:33,545 It'll kind of help put them at ease. 613 00:34:33,645 --> 00:34:36,551 [suspenseful music] 614 00:34:36,651 --> 00:34:43,665 ♪ 615 00:34:45,636 --> 00:34:47,573 - Tony, what's up, bud? 616 00:34:47,673 --> 00:34:54,654 ♪ 617 00:34:58,094 --> 00:35:00,232 - On the couches? 618 00:35:00,332 --> 00:35:03,204 Anybody in the back bedroom? 619 00:35:08,114 --> 00:35:12,055 narrator: He claims he left before the shooting went down. 620 00:35:12,122 --> 00:35:14,426 - M'kay, who'd you come in there with? 621 00:35:16,965 --> 00:35:19,369 - And that doesn't make sense. 622 00:35:19,469 --> 00:35:21,374 We got witnesses that put the three of you together 623 00:35:21,474 --> 00:35:23,144 at the time of the shooting. 624 00:35:23,244 --> 00:35:26,350 The three of you run out together. 625 00:35:28,523 --> 00:35:31,728 - People aren't gonna buy that story. 626 00:35:31,828 --> 00:35:33,565 Now, people might believe 627 00:35:33,665 --> 00:35:35,603 that you were there for the robbery, 628 00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:37,907 but you weren't expecting it to go bad. 629 00:35:37,974 --> 00:35:40,011 You figured the AK-47 was enough 630 00:35:40,111 --> 00:35:42,717 to scare the [bleep] out of anybody. 631 00:35:49,864 --> 00:35:51,902 - Okay. 632 00:35:52,002 --> 00:35:54,439 All right. 633 00:35:56,144 --> 00:35:58,882 - Right, but you were there. 634 00:36:00,886 --> 00:36:04,092 - Okay, all right. 635 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:07,767 All right, that's what I'm going with. 636 00:36:07,867 --> 00:36:09,738 [door closes] 637 00:36:09,838 --> 00:36:10,873 [radio chatter] 638 00:36:11,074 --> 00:36:15,148 narrator: Tony Rucker is placed under arrest for murder. 639 00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:18,054 - Through the open the door. Hook a left. 640 00:36:18,154 --> 00:36:19,957 ♪ 641 00:36:20,024 --> 00:36:21,928 - This way. 642 00:36:22,028 --> 00:36:27,673 ♪ 643 00:36:27,773 --> 00:36:29,644 [telephone rings] 644 00:36:29,711 --> 00:36:32,517 - Atlanta Police, Homicide, Detective Berhalter speaking. 645 00:36:32,584 --> 00:36:34,755 narrator: Berhalter gets a break. 646 00:36:34,821 --> 00:36:36,023 - How do you know him? 647 00:36:36,123 --> 00:36:39,697 narrator: A CI has information on the third suspect. 648 00:36:39,798 --> 00:36:41,100 - And who is that? 649 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,803 ♪ 650 00:36:46,912 --> 00:36:48,347 [suspenseful music] 651 00:36:48,447 --> 00:36:50,385 male narrator: The caller gives Detective Berhalter 652 00:36:50,452 --> 00:36:52,322 the name of the third suspect. 653 00:36:52,422 --> 00:36:53,792 - All right, thank you very much. 654 00:36:53,892 --> 00:36:56,698 Buh-bye. 655 00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:58,134 Searching. 656 00:36:58,201 --> 00:37:00,940 Black male by the name of Aaron Simmons, 657 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,108 also known as Little Pea. 658 00:37:02,208 --> 00:37:05,683 ♪ 659 00:37:05,749 --> 00:37:07,787 narrator: 19-year-old Aaron Simmons 660 00:37:07,887 --> 00:37:10,025 has previous convictions for forgery 661 00:37:10,092 --> 00:37:12,061 and giving a false name. 662 00:37:12,128 --> 00:37:13,331 - According to the witnesses, 663 00:37:13,398 --> 00:37:17,072 this is the individual that had brought the AK-47 664 00:37:17,172 --> 00:37:20,612 into the apartment and said, "Shoot him." 665 00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:29,964 ♪ 666 00:37:30,432 --> 00:37:31,367 narrator: While the Fugitive Squad 667 00:37:31,433 --> 00:37:33,137 searches for Little Pea... 668 00:37:33,237 --> 00:37:35,643 - All right, all right, all right. 669 00:37:35,743 --> 00:37:38,749 - Detective Berhalter continues to look for holes 670 00:37:38,849 --> 00:37:40,285 in Larry's alibi. 671 00:37:40,385 --> 00:37:42,556 - Uh, we got Larry's phone records back in 672 00:37:42,656 --> 00:37:45,897 on the day of the homicide. 673 00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:49,203 10:02, he made an outgoing call. 674 00:37:49,269 --> 00:37:50,773 ♪ 675 00:37:50,839 --> 00:37:53,411 Tsk. And then, yeah. 676 00:37:53,512 --> 00:37:56,585 10:02 a.m. is right before the homicide occurs, 677 00:37:56,652 --> 00:37:59,724 and when Larry made that phone call 678 00:37:59,791 --> 00:38:01,562 it was pinging on the side of the tower 679 00:38:01,662 --> 00:38:05,736 that would place him at the scene of the homicide. 680 00:38:06,805 --> 00:38:08,808 I'm confident he was there already, 681 00:38:08,908 --> 00:38:11,815 because witnesses say he may have been wearing a mask, 682 00:38:11,882 --> 00:38:12,884 but that is him. 683 00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:15,589 So if we combine that with the phone records, 684 00:38:15,689 --> 00:38:17,927 we'll definitely get an arrest warrant for him. 685 00:38:18,027 --> 00:38:23,304 ♪ 686 00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:26,511 narrator: Five months after Deon's murder... 687 00:38:26,611 --> 00:38:28,982 ♪ 688 00:38:29,049 --> 00:38:31,186 - I received a call from, uh, 689 00:38:31,286 --> 00:38:32,556 Gwinnett County Police Department, 690 00:38:32,656 --> 00:38:35,361 and they, uh, told me that they had, uh, 691 00:38:35,428 --> 00:38:39,670 apprehended Aaron Simmons, our third suspect. 692 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:45,214 ♪ 693 00:38:45,314 --> 00:38:47,386 Now, here's the thing. 694 00:38:47,453 --> 00:38:49,824 I don't think you're a killer. - Huh? 695 00:38:49,891 --> 00:38:52,797 - It doesn't matter what I think, OK? 696 00:38:52,864 --> 00:38:55,903 Because right now I got folks talking 697 00:38:55,970 --> 00:38:58,441 and saying you are a killer. 698 00:38:58,542 --> 00:39:00,478 So I wanted to give you this opportunity. 699 00:39:00,580 --> 00:39:01,815 That's why I'm here. 700 00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:05,421 So, come off the bull[bleep], all right? 701 00:39:05,488 --> 00:39:07,225 Just tell me exactly what happened. 702 00:39:07,325 --> 00:39:11,768 ♪ 703 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:28,535 - Okay. 704 00:39:28,636 --> 00:39:30,506 Who killed him then? 705 00:39:30,606 --> 00:39:32,610 - I don't know, I just say that I wasn't in the house 706 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:34,814 when the man got killed. I was around the area. 707 00:39:34,881 --> 00:39:37,385 narrator: Aaron claims he was in a different apartment 708 00:39:37,485 --> 00:39:40,258 in the complex at the time of the shooting. 709 00:39:40,358 --> 00:39:42,396 - Suspect interviews can be challenging 710 00:39:42,496 --> 00:39:44,466 for the most experienced detectives, 711 00:39:44,534 --> 00:39:46,170 let alone a rookie new to the process. 712 00:39:46,270 --> 00:39:49,143 When Detective Scott Berhalter finally identified and arrested 713 00:39:49,243 --> 00:39:51,147 the third suspect in this shooting, 714 00:39:51,247 --> 00:39:53,150 he hit a dead end in the interview. 715 00:39:53,250 --> 00:39:58,293 ♪ 716 00:39:58,394 --> 00:40:00,699 - I've been doing this for 30 years. 717 00:40:00,799 --> 00:40:03,471 - You have a grandmother or a mother? 718 00:40:03,539 --> 00:40:05,141 - Yeah, see, the only benefit 719 00:40:05,241 --> 00:40:06,611 is that they know you told the truth 720 00:40:06,678 --> 00:40:08,380 about what happened. 721 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,888 - Why were you in the apartment? 722 00:40:14,059 --> 00:40:16,898 - What kind of business were you doing in the apartment? 723 00:40:18,267 --> 00:40:19,604 - Okay. 724 00:40:19,671 --> 00:40:22,609 So, while you're in the apartment, what happens? 725 00:40:24,948 --> 00:40:27,152 narrator: Little Pea claims two men burst in 726 00:40:27,252 --> 00:40:28,755 to rob the apartment. 727 00:40:28,855 --> 00:40:30,693 - Yeah. 728 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,828 - Mm-hmm. 729 00:40:31,928 --> 00:40:35,335 narrator: He says he immediately ran out the door. 730 00:40:35,435 --> 00:40:36,771 Boom-boom-boom-boom boom-boom-boom. 731 00:40:41,413 --> 00:40:43,819 - Mm-hmm. 732 00:40:43,886 --> 00:40:46,256 - Mm-hmm. 733 00:40:46,323 --> 00:40:47,960 - Dig it, dig it. 734 00:40:53,438 --> 00:40:55,141 - All right. 735 00:40:55,241 --> 00:40:58,515 At no point did you ever participate in that robbery, 736 00:40:58,582 --> 00:40:59,617 is what you're saying? 737 00:40:59,717 --> 00:41:01,788 You're just there when it happened. 738 00:41:02,924 --> 00:41:04,827 - All right. 739 00:41:04,894 --> 00:41:06,330 I appreciate your truth, man. 740 00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:07,533 I appreciate that today. All right? 741 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:08,702 - Yes, sir. - All right? 742 00:41:08,768 --> 00:41:10,806 - I'm just saying. - All right. 743 00:41:10,906 --> 00:41:13,111 ♪ 744 00:41:13,211 --> 00:41:16,617 - The goal by going outside was to get him in the apartment 745 00:41:16,718 --> 00:41:18,354 where the murder actually happened, 746 00:41:18,454 --> 00:41:19,891 and we accomplished that out in the courtyard, 747 00:41:19,991 --> 00:41:22,061 out in the sally port, so that's a good look. 748 00:41:22,128 --> 00:41:23,898 It's good, man. Great job on it, man. 749 00:41:23,999 --> 00:41:26,036 - I appreciate it, man. - Good luck. 750 00:41:26,136 --> 00:41:28,542 - It's nice to have the veteran detectives 751 00:41:28,608 --> 00:41:30,211 to help you and mentor you, 752 00:41:30,278 --> 00:41:33,350 and it feels great that I was able to solve this one. 753 00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:36,390 [dramatic music] 754 00:41:36,490 --> 00:41:43,638 ♪ 755 00:41:51,821 --> 00:41:54,761 ♪ 756 00:41:54,861 --> 00:41:56,632 - Getting your first case as a lead detective 757 00:41:56,732 --> 00:41:59,069 is nerve-wracking, right? 758 00:41:59,169 --> 00:42:01,374 It's stressful. Am I good enough to do this? 759 00:42:01,474 --> 00:42:03,411 Am I gonna get this done? 760 00:42:03,512 --> 00:42:06,050 You wanna be a good detective. 761 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:08,488 As you go, and you get your experience, 762 00:42:08,589 --> 00:42:12,295 you're gonna eventually become that great homicide detective. 763 00:42:12,395 --> 00:42:14,801 - [laughs] - Congrats, boy. 764 00:42:14,867 --> 00:42:19,977 ♪